Town of Duanesburg
Planning Board Meeting
Thursday January 6, 2005
Present: Laura Silva,Chair, Martin White, Mark DeLeva, Walt Miller, Fred Siegel, Bill Ruther, Kathy Jo Gallo, Secretary, Gino Santabarbara, Planner
Public Hearings
Dennis Mauro, owning 14 acres on North Mansion Road, SBL#68.00-2-7.15 is subdividing 3 lots. Lot #1 is 4.09 acres Lot #2 is 4.66 acres and Lot #3 is 6.23 acres.
This Public Hearing is continued from the December 6, 2004 Public Hearing. Scott Lansing representing Lansing Engineering commented on the project. They were not aware the project was on tonight's agenda and consented to have the hearing adjourned to February 17, 2005. Public Hearing closed.
Daniel J. Lennon, 2425 Skyline Drive, SBL#45.00-2-19.41 is applying for a one lot minor subdivision of 4.40 acres with garage. There were no audience comments or concerns on this project. County and Board members were concerned about the lack of an easement and maintenance agreement regarding access to Lot #2 from Lot #1. A permanent easement must be indicated on the map as well as being placed in the deed. They will also require a legal maintenance agreement. Public Hearing closed.
Donald Lucarelli, owner David Longo, 1490 Darrow Road, is applying for a one lot subdivision of 1.5 acres to be combined with the lands of Longo. David Longo explained the proposed subdivision. There were no questions or comments from the audience. Public Hearing closed.
James Cole of Knight Road, SBL#65.00-2-20.1 is applying for a 13 lot major subdivision known as Drawbridge Estates.
Audience Concerns
Mark Schneider- (McGuire School Road) questioned Mr. Cole on the use of the trails for uses other than horses as he was concerned about motorized vehicles. There is no intent to use the trails for any thing other than horses at this time.
Lance Manus questioned Mr. Cole about the type of subdivision and septic system required as well as test wells. Mr. Cole responded that it is a Realty subdivision will use Amsterdam system and the test well was 4.5 gallons/minute at 290 feet.
Denise Rockwell- (Knight Road) She is at the bottom of the hill on Knight Road and has two main concerns one being water table level and the other the dangerous corner on Knight Road that sees numerous accidents each year. She is concerned about the entrance being just after the crest of the hill. She questioned Mr. Cole on the number of horses that would be allowed and whether all of the horses would be owned by those in the community. Mr. Cole responded that the number of horses per house is regulated and he would be following necessary guidelines and that the plans at this time are for all of the horses in the community to be the property of the homeowners.
Linda Succi- (Knight Road) Concerned about the water table level with large homes in this development. Also concerned about the water needed for the horses and how they will be stabled. Questioned Mr. Cole on the test wells and whether there was any way to know before putting in the houses how much the water table would be affected. The test wells were done and their recommendation was that there would be sufficient water.
Bridget Holmes- (Knight Road) Stated her concerns were the water table including the strain of 13 homes and the prospect of blasting affecting the water levels as well. She is also concerned about the proposed spot for the entrance road to the development as it is in a blind spot on Knight Road. She stated she would like the Planning Board to look at how the entire community will be affected with the water and safety issues. She inquired about the plans for lighting on the road and asked about the size of the houses that were to be built there. Mr. Cole stated that there was no plan for extensive lighting and that the sizes of the houses were planned to be 2500 to 3200 square feet.
John Cestra-(Knight Road) Mr. Cestra stated that he lives across from the proposed entrance road location and he is concerned about the safety of the blind crest just about its location. Mr. Cole responded that the engineers worked with DOT recommendations for the location of the road.
Bob Malpezzi- (Gurnsey Road) Inquired about blasting for the new houses, wetlands disturbance, grazing lands and the possibility of extending the road through Drawbridge Estates to Gurnsey Road. Mr. Cole responded that the blasting issue has not been determined yet and that there were no plans to extend the road at this time. The DEC is regulating the wetlands and the grazing area will be on the open lands year round.
Board Concerns
Board clarified that the road will be built to town specifications. Mr. Cole clarified that the plan is to turn the road over to the town but that as this is not guaranteed it will be written into the Homeowners Association for maintenance. The Board would like to see a bond for the road and to review the homeowner's guidelines. They will also need the DOT written recommendation for the road. There is also a need for a map plat that indicates that no lot will be offered for sale that disturbs the wetlands that are being regulated by the Army Corp of Engineers.
There was discussion about approving phases of the plan for example to approve the subdivision and then four building lots at a time rather than all thirteen. Mr. Cole responded that phases would be a challenge as they plan to partner with a builder for all thirteen lots so that all the houses look the same and that phasing would impact the financial plans for the road.
Public Hearing closed and will be continued on February 17, 2005 at 7:30pm
Approval of Minutes
Motion made by Laura Silva seconded by Martin White to approve the December 2004 minutes. Roll Call Vote: Laura Silva-yes, Martin White-yes, Walt Miller-yes, Fred Siegel-yes, Bill Ruther-yes, Mark DeLeva-yes.
New Business
Alan J. Krieger and Judith E. Prest of 5185 Scotch Ridge Road, SBL#55.00-2-6.9, are applying for a one lot minor subdivision. They are proposing to divide a 12.8 acre parcel into 2 lots, one lot 2.3 acres with an existing house and the remaining 10.5 acres with a barn. There will be one deeded restriction as the driveway next to the barn will be the right of way to the existing house. Prior to the Public Hearing the application must be complete. Needed documents include at site map, Ag disclosure, septic indicated on the map and a copy of the easement.
Motion made by Fred Siegel seconded by Laura Silva to schedule a public hearing for February 17, 2005 at 7:30pm on the application of Alan J. Krieger and Judith E. Prest for a one lot minor subdivision. Roll Call Vote: Fred Siegel-yes, Laura Silva-yes, Walt Miller-yes, Martin White-yes, Mark DeLeva-yes, Bill Ruther-yes
Lance and Wendy Manus owning 9.2 acres on Western Turnpike and Wendy Lane SBL#53.00-1-29.111 are applying for a four lot major subdivision. Lot #1 is 2.3 acres, Lot #2 is 2.3 acres, Lot #3 is 2.3 acres and Lot #4 is 2.33 acres. This is a continuation of subdivision from the 1970's. At this point the land is zoned commercial and Mr. Manus discussed with the Board the possibility of also submitting a Special Use Permit application so that the lots may be used as residential. At this time he will proceed with just the subdivision and the Special Use Permit will be a separate issue.
Thomas R. Spoor owning 40.5 acres at 579 Duanesburg Churches Road SBL#54-2-35 is applying for an 11 lot major subdivision to be known as Hawks Landing. The parcels range in size from 2.3 acres to 5 acres and the project will include construction of a road into the subdivision from Duanesburg Churches Road. This is a preliminary inquiry. Mr. Spoor discussed with the Board the types of subdivisions he may be considering including realty and cluster.
Gathering of the Vibes Special Use Permit Application. Ken Hayes will be available for questions from the Board regarding the Special Use Permit Application for Gathering of the Vibes, a 3 day music, arts and camping festival to be held at the Indian Lookout Country Club at 1142 Batter Street in Mariaville on August 12-14, 2005. Mr. Hayes was not available this evening due to the weather. Bill Potter represented Indian Lookout Country Club to answer questions. The Board would like to know the number of people that are expected to attend this year as will as the hotline log of complaints from last year.
Motion made by Fred Siegel seconded by Laura Silva to set a Public Hearing on a Special Use Permit Application for Gathering of the Vibes, a 3 day music, arts and camping festival to be held at the Indian Lookout Country Club at 1142 Batter Street in Mariaville on August 12-14, 2005. for February 17,2005 at 7:30pm. The Public Hearing is contingent on the Board receiving the number of people expected to attend the event and the hotline log of complaints from last year.
Roll Call Vote: Fred Siegel-yes, Laura Silva-yes, Walt Miller-yes, Martin White-yes, Mark DeLeva-yes, Bill Ruther-yes.
Old Business
Ken Meyer owning property on Depot Road returning with an update on Depot Road subdivision. The County recommends no action at this time. They have a number of concerns including flag lots #1 and #5, construction details on the septic and water prior to approval and relocation of the stormwater facility. Woodstone Place will be the name of the development.
The Board will help the applicants contact the Highway department and the Fire Marshall for comment on the project.
Requirements for the Public Hearing include a revised map combining lots #1 and #2, a 50% expansion area for septic, written report from the Army Corp of Engineers regarding wetlands, report from the Fire Marshall, clarification of road issues, a Full EAF, written report from Parks and Historic, details on easements available for review and all county concerns addressed. A Stormwater report will be available to the Board after public comments have been heard.
Motion made by Laura Silva seconded by Fred Siegel to set a Public Hearing on the application by Ken Meyer for a 13 lot major subdivision known as Woodstone Place located on Depot Road for February 17, 2005 contingent upon the following requirements: a revised map combining lots #1 and #2, a 50% expansion area for septic, written report from the Army Corp of Engineers regarding wetlands, report from the Fire Marshall, clarification of road issues, a Full EAF, written report from Parks and Historic, details on easements available for review and all county concerns addressed being completed by January 28, 2005.
Roll Call Vote: Laura Silva-yes, Fred Siegel-yes, Walt Miller-yes, Bill Ruther-yes, Martin White-yes, Mark DeLeva-yes
Duanesburg GC Partners, LLC SBL#33.00-2-8.11 to further discuss Mountain Meadows a 28 lot major subdivision. Board updated on plans at this time. They are looking to ask for a public hearing in March. The Army Corp of Engineers will not be able to complete their duties before spring in regards to the wetlands. They have revised their plan to include a buffer around the perceived wetlands. They are applying for a SPDES permit from DEC. They are not considering cluster housing at this time, this was a county concern. There are two detention ponds on site. They will be addressing in the following month, staking wells, sending SHIPO letter, road issues, school notification and fire department contact. There will be raised bed septics.
Kevin Chestnut to discuss initial application for Chestnut Hills Phase II. The plan is for 6 lots on 31 acres. There is not plat at this time. There are 2 lots under 5 acres. A complete application is needed.
Public Hearing Votes
Daniel J. Lennon, 2425 Skyline Drive, SBL#45.00-2-19.41 is applying for a one lot minor subdivision of 4.40 acres with garage. Concern is for each lot to have its own access. A lot needs to be a buildable lot unless hardship is shown.
Motion made by Martin White seconded by Fred Siegel for a negative declaration on the short form EAF. Roll Call Vote: Martin White-yes, Fred Siegel-yes, Laura Silva-yes, Bill Ruther-yes, Mark DeLeva-yes, Walt Miller-yes
Motion made by Martin White seconded by Walt Miller to approve the application by Daniel J. Lennon for a one lot minor subdivision contingent upon the easement being shown on the map. Roll Call Vote: Martin White-yes, Walt Miller-yes, Laura Silva-yes, Fred Siegel-yes, Bill Ruther-yes, Mark DeLeva-yes.
Donald Lucarelli, owner David Longo, 1490 Darrow Road, is applying for a one lot subdivision of 1.5 acres to be combined with the lands of Longo
Motion made by Bill Ruther seconded by Fred Siegel for a negative declaration on the short form EAF. Roll Call Vote: Bill Ruther-yes, Fred Siegel-yes, Laura Silva-yes, Martin White-yes Mark DeLeva-yes, Walt Miller-yes
Motion made by Laura Silva seconded by Mark DeLeva to approve the application of Donald Lucarelli for a one lot minor subdivision of 1.5 acres. Roll Call Vote: Laura Silva-yes, Mark DeLeva-yes, Bill Ruther-yes, Martin White-yes, Walt Miller-yes, Fred Siegel-yes.
Other
Memo from Town Board. Planning Board meetings will be scheduled for the third Thursday of each month. New Board member Larry Breckenridge.
Moratorium on new major residential subdivisions
The Board recommends a six-month moratorium for the purpose of updating the comprehensive plan and zoning ordinances to give the Planning Board more guidance.
Starting next meeting the necessary information for meetings will be available to board members for review in their mailboxes downstairs 10 days prior to the meeting.
Meeting adjourned 11:25pm
Submitted by Kathy Jo Gallo, Secretary
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